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[cartex]

I don't know if you really have to do it for that..
But Rade told me once that for changes to take effect I have to pause and resume the bot.
So I basically do it for all changes to make sure to be on the safe side.

cartex

[BfBotManager]

Hi Cartex, Steve,

All settings are real time and you do not have to pause and click resume button, but if you make changes to loss pot recovery then it is best to restart (Stop and Start) bot because it will be easier to understand how your settings are working and how stakes are calculated.

Regarding checkboxes for Simple Sequence, I will recheck logic and grey out checkboxes that cannot be used if other ones are used.

Right now logic if following:
1. first check restart on winning bet if it is checked
2. first check restart on losing bet if it is checked
3. if 1 and 2 are not checked and restart on last multiplier is checked then restart on last multiplier is used

Regards,
Rade

[steve]

Hi Rade
Thanks for this, I'll Check it out with the dogs...
steve

[steve]

Rade & Cartex...still not working as hoped, see screenshot.
The two losers in a row is to be expected but the second one should have had stake x 0.01?
Since the shot was taken earlier there were 4 other occasions when there were two losers in a row so if this can be fixed I think it would be very worthwhile. Some of them had a gap between matched bets but that's the plan anyway.
This system doesn't apply to horse racing but it's been an old fact that a winning fav at one dog track is often followed by one at the other, hence the two losing lays in a row syndrome....can't be explained though!

[cartex]

Hi Steve,

Like I mentioned before. you got to turn off loss recovery
Another thing, for me it doesn't look like its a good idea to restart sequence after first losing bet.
Because then you are staking 1 again after the loss instead of 0.01
My opinon is that you should have ticked box 1 and 3 and disabled loss recovery

cartex

[mcbee]

hi
i am not to sure about the method, as your bank will get wiped out on the favourites day.
but if you want to bet like in your post, you will need to do these settings
UNTICK loss pot recovery
set the simple sequence to
0 = 1 ( x set stake amount, this is the bet until a loss)
1 = .01 ( this is once after the loss, then back to the 0 setting )
TICK restart sequence on first winning bet
UNTICK restart sequence on first losing bet
TICK restart sequence after last mutiplier
save

this will place a lay bet until a loss, then place 1 bet at 0.01, then place normal stake until a loss and so on.
so from your screen shot it would have been
win=1.05
win=1.05
win=1.05
loss=2.73
loss=0.01
win=1.05
win=1.05
win=1.05
win=1.05
win=1.05

mcbee

[steve]

Guys, please see shot1 & 2 attached...nice long winning run but plan not working as expected.
I'm using LP Recovery since the staking plan is only placing lowest stake following a loser and is therefore not a staking plan as in fibonacci example and I want to recover losses. All i want to do is place x number of low bets immediately following a loser and then place a bet including loss recovery.
See after the 0540 timed loser the next bet shows loss recovery amount but should have been stake x 0.04.
After 0719 bet I increased stake and also adjusted staking plan but sods law 2 losing bets in a row! So plan obviously not working. Shot1 shows how it was earlier.

shot1.JPG

[mcbee]

hi steve
sorry, but you cannot use a staking plan with recovery, because the recovery overides the staking plan.
if you want to recover your losses then, you need to set the simple sequence to
0=1
1=0.01
2=1.3
3=1.3
4=1.3
5=1.3
tick restart after win
and tick restart after last sequence
this will do what you want and recover 20% extra
keep altering the 1.3 higher until you get a happy medium, where you are recovering most of your loss without getting stakes to big.

mcbee

[mcbee]

hi
this does'nt work, it resets before the recovery sequence.


mcbee

[steve]

hi mcbee
thanks very much for your input.... i didn't realise about overide priorities.
I've done as you suggested and attached are some results.
But, after the loser I can't make out whats happening with the staking plan.
The first result has the default 53p stake and the next has the low stake, 0.01. Followed by the normal 53p stake again?
Anything to do with aus/uk accounts do you think?

I took a screenshot but the file is too big as a png (smaller than jpg)...maybe with todays higher resolution screens this needs to be reviewed.
I could pm it to you?
Thanks again.

regards
steve

[cartex]

Simple sequence staking plan doesn't work with recovery.
It has nothing to do with your account.
Staking plan and recovery are like oil and water. Not possible to mix if you want the plan to work

If you want to use loss pot recovery then you can forget about your staking plan.

The only thing you can do now if you want to follow this in some kind of form is to do the following thing.
1.Set your inital stake to $1 like you did
2.Set your recovey as you like
3.Load the races for the day
4.Tick and monitor only every 3rd race

Now your bot will skip two races regardless of if its a winner or loser, but you will get your two race gap.

With recovery there won't be many other ways

cartex

[mcbee]

hi
this will be because you have not ticked the restart after win.

mcbee

[steve]

chaps thanks for your continuing help with this.
the next 2 screenshots shot4 and shot 5 show the situation now.
note the stakes from the 1232 race onwards...can you figure what's (not) happening?

cheers
steve

shot4.PNG

[steve]

shot5..........

[cartex]

Hi steve,
is your unsettled bets set to 1? But also setting it to 1 could affect your strategy in a bad way too.
I'm not sure, but that could affect the staking.
Saw that once after the loss it did not go down..hmm...it maybe because the previous wasn't settled before that one was placed.
Not sure, just what I think

cartex